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Bluessunn Music Forte Master

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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: Anyone USE expensive oh my god I sold my car condensor mics? |
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| As far as Shure microphones, that's all I use and i swear by them, very good dynamics, not the best out there cause most folks can't afford the high end, but for the home recorder to start out or for just doing demos, they work just fine, but if you're not happy with them you could always go out and spend umpteen hundreds of dollars on a professional studio mic....hehe.......Chasin' Insane |
I swear by Sure 57s for my acoustic drums (they are great for musical masturbation) and condensors for vocals, what do you guys use?
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SamDrummerBoy Gold Member

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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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I'm trying really hard to not use mics anymore....... The less mics, the less real world sounds that manage to get on my recordings. Loops loops loops.........I'm kidding of course, just trying to start a fight or something...... I don't know......
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| Well...For my recording of "real" music using instruments, I use Adobe Audition 1.5, Tried Audition 2.0 and have it on the pc, but my recording computer is an Athlon 1.3 gig with 700 something mem and it runs at a bus speed of 266....Plenty enough for recording.....But Audition 1.5 is way easier to use than 2.0.......As far as MIDI you can't go wrong with Reason 3.0, it was a little intimidating when i first got it, as a matter of fact i had it installed for almost 2 years before i took a GOOD look at it, and when i did, boy i tell ya, very easy to use and you can also use your mouse, yes your computer mouse, to create drums, extra synths, ect....Only problem i have found with Reason is how complex it is to get vocals into it...You need to get a separate program from Proppelerhead called Recycle and you create a loop in a separate recorder, like Audition, to make a .wav file and you put that into Recycle and cut the tracks where you want them, usually make every word separate, make an .rx2 loop file, and then use the Dr. Rex loop player in Reason to import your vocal tracks....Once you figure it out tho, and there is a lot of tutorials out there that will show you how to use it, it's actually real easy to use, real user friendly....My dad was using Fruity Loops Studio for his goofy recording ans he wasn't keen on Reason either, but, I went over to his house about a week ago and showed him how to use it minimally and he completely changed his studio around to use that software alone...It was amazing.....And he has been recording his own stuff for almost 30 years now if not longer and he looked like I showed him heaven...Anywho....As far as Shure microphones, that's all I use and i swear by them, very good dynamics, not the best out there cause most folks can't afford the high end, but for the home recorder to start out or for just doing demos, they work just fine, but if you're not happy with them you could always go out and spend umpteen hundreds of dollars on a professional studio mic....hehe....So all the software I listed is what I use and it has been good to me for 10 years now....You don't need a flashy computer for Audition 1.5, just a good sound card.......And if your pc is real old you could always go back to Cool Edit...hehe....Good Luck with your recording, look forward to hearing some new stuff soon.....Chasin' Insane |
Hey, Chasin' Insane...... Wouldn't it be easier to render the midi/loop stuff to a wav file then import it to a different program to put down vocals? I'm just asking because I haven't ever used any of the programs you mentioned. It seems that chopping up a vocal to fit something else, would be a total pain. Just wondering if there is a reason (no pun intended) to do it the other way.
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chasin_insane Music Forte Master

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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah that would be easier, but if you want to mix it in proper with the rest of the mix, using the built-in mastering software in Reason, you have to do it the way i described....Unless of course you have the skill to mix it in good with some other software and not lose anything....But I have found to achieve the full " professional " sounding master it is best to place the .wav into Recycle and use the Dr. Rex loop player in Reason to add it to the final mix so it fits in with the rest of the song and don't have a different sound than the rest of the song.....as far as when the compressor and limiters balance the sound it will do the same with the vocals whereas if you place the vocals on the track with outside software after exporting the song the vocals won't blend right....But like i said if you got the skill yes it would be easier but I have an ear for hearing that kind of stuff so I chose to do it in the mix within reason.....It is a complicated process, but, you get a better result in the end....Just my opinion tho...I am sure there are probably a hundred different ways to do it out there tho...It's all up the person doing the song/production how they want to do it.....But in my lil world of insane things, I prefer to take the time instead of the easy way to do things.....Get a way better final mastered mix that way I think...  |
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socialcrawl Newbie

 Joined: 16 Jul 2007 More posts by socialcrawl Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| what about studio acoustics for a in home studio? is a bass trap necessary? |
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SamDrummerBoy Gold Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to trap bass frequencies it is. (I know dumb answer......) The fact of it is, I haven't found it to be a problem yet........ Maybe someday I'll decide otherwise...... We'll see. Are you having problems with bass frequencies? Why do you ask?
I'd like to help but, I don't know exactly what you're asking.
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charliedanders Newbie

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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: hey Christine... |
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I am doing something a bit different than most here I guess...using a Boss/Roland BR1200cd
It gives you multi-track ability and is setup pretty much like an old cassette recorder as far as looks goes (buttons & all). I am not very technical and I have learned how to use it pretty well. I feel that the end results are good...and maybe would be better for someone who really knows how to use it to the max. It does take some time to learn how to use it. It has built in drum patterns and you can add your own too I think; also dito on bass (although I haven't used that feature yet). I think you can plug your keyboard into it if needed and it has midi capabilities.
The demos that came with it were really good. The songs I have recorded really sound pretty good to me. You can write cd's with this thing which I think is really cool.
Well, overall I am really happy with it, and it may be a solution for you, rather than buying a separate computer for recording.
Of course, you could always go to a music store that has these and have them demo it for you first.
I guess there are more models of this machine that have more memory, etc...which would be nice.
Anyway, I hope this is helpful.
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martouk Pro Member

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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: Cubase |
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Hi Christine,
I have been using Cubase for 3 years now and, given a little time to learn how to set your track balancing, the software is pretty user friendly (unlike Cakewalk which I never could make work for me). The midi interface is easy to use, and with some costware or even freeware, you can get superb grand piano sound from your midi (I personally use MOTU Symphonic Instrument for Concert Piano in my work), but there are other programs out there.
Cubase also easily faciliates Virtual Instruments (VSTi's) and there are a ton of really great freeware programs out there for creating some nice ambient atmospherics with your music. As for mixdown quality, all I can do is suggest that you listen to a few of my cuts and see if you think that the sound quality is generally lacking (which it usually isn't, IMO, given a few 'rough' early mixes). You can check out my sounds here and then decide.
http://www.musicforte.com/member/martouk
The downside of using a Mac is that there are very few VSTi's that will work with Mac. Even much of the high dollar costware does not have Mac compatible products, so I would definitely investigate more before jumping on the Mac bandwagon. So far as sound quality goes, my brother has a Mac with Garage Band and I see no major shortcomings with my Cubase SE3 and comparative sound quality. It's all in what you do with what you produce. IMO, Mac is not superior to PCs for music making, and in many ways is more a handicap than a boon - at least to my way of thinking.
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1undread Platinum Member

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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Back to the subject at hand.
Lets get up and running.
Now if I was starting a studio to day I would put a fire wire card in my computer and get something like the Alesis io/26 or io/14 Firewire audio/midi interface that comes with cubase le
No I don't use this but you use the software that you know best. All of them have up sides and down sides and you have to start somewhere. Cubase is a brilliant place to start and a piece of equipment like this will enable you to connect your keyboards, record your instruments and vocals at a high quality and get you up and running in no time.
Concentrate on getting the best hardware/software package.
Also if you can upgrade your os
You will continue to have virus/spyware problems if you continue with 2000. |
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rockthebox Newbie

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I've been using CoolEdit pro to record guitars/bass/mandolins/etc and cakewalk...which I believe is Sonar now to do MIDI with keyboards. Both have been wonderful to me. |
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yourockradio Platinum Member

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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Cool Edit is now Adobe Audition, has been for many years and Cakewalk has been Sonar for about 7 years.
Twelve Tones is the name of the company.
Sonar and Cakewalk Audio are two different worlds entirely. So what are you really using?
Sonar has the "Freeze" function, after Sonar 3 that is. Can't live without it! Sonar is in its 7th incarnation at this point, Sonar 7.
Sounds like you could use some upgrades there Rock. Lot of better stuff out there than Cool Edit. But I understand, we get comfortable with certain functions and learning curves are never fun.
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a4angela Newbie

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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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We use Garageband on a mac. It's really easy. I can also record instruments like my keyboard on it. We had Band in a Box for PC but it is waaay to complicated for me and my Dad
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BVX Newbie

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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Damn. My mixer is analog. You mean these things hook up to computers?  |
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Reconsiderate Forum Moderator

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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| a4angela wrote: |
| We use Garageband on a mac. It's really easy. |
A coworker of mine just showed me this the other day. At first, I thought it was a lot like Acid, which I used to use back in the day, but then I saw that it's got a lot more. Lets you edit sounds and such, even create a faux supporting band by genre in the "magic" section. That's clever.
Anyway, cool beans.
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Reconsiderate Forum Moderator

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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Damn. My mixer is analog. You mean these things hook up to computers?  |
LOL
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mlr_pa Pro Member

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Hey peoples, I'm back.
Well, after leaving a crappy relationship, and moving across the country, I have a new studio (ish) thingy. I'm using Adobe Audition 3.0, A Behringer Xenon 802 mixer with a BerhringerUCA202 usb interface. A Behringer V-AMP2 does the modeling, and 20some guitars, ranging to a 65 Gibson Non reverse Firebird, to a Squier Tele. I will be posting some tunes soon |
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