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Ziplok Newbie

 Joined: 15 Dec 2006 More posts by Ziplok Location: Hudson
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:22 am Post subject: www.apple.com |
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| Apple has changed the way you can do things constantly and now its 2007. If you dont have a MAC and you have a studio Get YOUR Mind Right and sell your PC on Ebay and get a real Machine. Also if you plan on some hardware pick up a Roland of any sort. Need some USB gear get M-Audio. It all works terrific and sounds GREAT!! |
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Greg Music Forte Staff
 Joined: 01 May 2004 More posts by Greg Location: Plainfield, IL
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Is there success to trying to monopolize an industry? I know Microsoft has taken a lot of heat for that. If everything everyone needs is tied in to just one manufacturer, I would think that they'd be losing a lot of business, regardless if their products are better or not.
...Well I don't even know if those are all apple products or not. |
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SamDrummerBoy Gold Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Is there success to trying to monopolize an industry? I know Microsoft has taken a lot of heat for that. If everything everyone needs is tied in to just one manufacturer, I would think that they'd be losing a lot of business, regardless if their products are better or not.
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Well said, Greg. I don't go for name brand just to try to be different. I don't like proprietary systems. So, where does that leave me?
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yourockradio Platinum Member

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Mac may be nice for some things, but they are the same proprietary gizmo's that the iPod is.
I wouldn't own either one of them unless someone gave me the thing or I got them dirt cheap. They can keep their iPhone too. Another proprietary deal. That seems to be their pattern over the years.
Truthfully, I had no idea what that guy was trying to say in the first place. Chances are though it was his only post back in July.
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seansdadj Newbie

 Joined: 07 Feb 2008 More posts by seansdadj Location: Hollywood
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| eh, macs are overrated. They're nice & all...but like you said I don't go for name brands.... |
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yourockradio Platinum Member

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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I agree. And those ads... BS Macs aren't any different these days than a PC. With the hypoglide quasicore chip speeds and insane amounts of megawatt fsb ram we can all run... Mac has no advantage. Except they cost 500 times more and are going to go extinct in two years like every one else's. Oh, and you can't hardly run anything on them because everyone writes all the bitchin' software for Windows, so you can actually run Windows on your overpriced proprietary MAC there if you need to. Oh, and now you can have an Intel chip too so.... Gee... Sounds like a PC to me! What a marketing scam.
I hate that when they so underhandedly put down a PC owner, only they are "cute" about it. Simply darling. Kiss my ass Steve Jobs, you are another flimflam artist just like your dope smoking buddy Bill.
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johnrlhunter Advanced Member

 Joined: 23 Jul 2006 More posts by johnrlhunter
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: Mac |
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I work as an IT profesional. I have just got an iMac and I love it. XP was alright but Vista is a different story. It kills the performance of your PC and is just trying to emulate a Mac in the way it looks...
Why have I bought a Mac?
for recording music.
My Imac stands next to my Dell Precision. I wouldn't swap either one as they both have their good points. I wont get rid of my PC as I don't want to have my Imac running software that was written for a PC. |
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Chrysalis Newbie

 Joined: 15 Jan 2007 More posts by Chrysalis Location: Barstow
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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This notion that you need a Mac to record music is nonsense.
THE COMPUTER HAS NO EFFECT ON THE SOUND OF YOUR RECORDING.
I run both formats, and am happy with both. The Mac is a fine machine, but IMO not worth the price.
I can build and equally powerful PC for much less. |
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yourockradio Platinum Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Back in the "old days" it was a fact that a MAC outperformed an average PC, especially for high end apps like CAD or audio/video. The operating system more closely resembled a unix kernel, and the Motorolla design chipset handled addressing memory in a much more orderly fashion.
Today it has no bearing on anything. I would run Linux if I didn't already own $100,000 worth of high end audio software written for Windows.
Vista? Let the public beta test that monstrosity for a few more years. That is what I did when they came out with XP, I waited about 2 years before I jumped on that bandwagon.
As far as the computer not having an effect on your sound? That is not entirely true. Some soundcards have miserable analog/digital/analog conversion algorithms, and a slow hardrive will create problems as well. Some southbridge chipsets also cause problems in audio.
That is a "broad brush" statement that I cannot agree with in the least.
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johnrlhunter Advanced Member

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:36 am Post subject: Some people really mis the point |
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The Mac is truly a different animal. It is not about what sound comes out but how it performs. Microsoft can never perform to the same standard as it's platform is limited, by it's architecture. Working in IT we come across countless problems just caused by the fact that the service packs replace dlls. The microsoft platform is a monstrosity that has grown so much that to just to run xp you need 1gb after service pack if you don't want it to be a slug and don't get me started about Vista!
When it comes down to sound it is a different matter, because it depends on what you interface your computer with.
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yourockradio Platinum Member

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Oh please... Mr server boy... Stop it!
You are comparing apples (pun intended), to oranges. You can go on with all the IT blah blah you want to John, it does not apply to Windows XP on a home computer for recording. Come on.
Windows XP is a mature program. Service packs are almost non-existent. For a 32 bit architecture you will find few OS's more stable than XP for running programs.
From a security standpoint on a server? Sure, I won't argue there. But don't try to sell anyone on a Mac just based on IT experience. Two different scenarios.
You don't use MAC servers, you probably use mainly Windows Server or a Linux/unix kernel Not even the same ball park. Sorry mate, don't buy it.
You are a great musician, but I wouldn't go into home computer sales right away. Too biased.
Nuff said. |
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johnrlhunter Advanced Member

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: Mac |
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People really get there far too animated about this subject.
XP was a good OS
It has passed!
Vista is here like it or lump it!
I run XP, it is a good OS, but I also have the joy of owning a Mac.
I use both and don't get worried about it!
Too many people get locked down it to this which do you feel is better...
Music is what matters, whether it is recorded on clapped out tape machine or the best kit in the world.
Someone at work was going on about he would only listen to music at home on his system where he could "listen to it as the artist intended"
I told him he was speaking out of the back of his head.
The artist does what he can, but there are producers, sound engineers, and the people who master it. Oh and whatever goes on the day that you record the music.
I know I maybe alone on this, but music comes from the soul and speaks to the soul.
I remember when I was in Oz, just going through a song I wrote performing for myself and this guy, came to me and told me how he connected to the song.
A great song is a great song, you can make it better with a great performance, and then with a great recording, but it starts with the song. You either connect or you don't.
Sometimes we can get lost in the tech and forget what it should be about and that is connecting, sharing the feeling you had when you created your music.
A better recording adds value to your music only when someone gets what you are trying to say.
I like my Mac, I won't be using Vista
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yourockradio Platinum Member

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong John, I like MAC's, usually I have owned PC's purely from a financial standpoint. Vista needs to be beta tested, the same way they forced the public to beta test all their other products. XP was garbage in the beginning also. I didn't jump on the XP bandwagon for a long time, and won't with Vista either.
64 bit architecture is the current future of the home computer. We are not fully transitioned yet and in that regard I will not confirm your statement that XP is not a relevant OS. In fact, they are getting ready to release an SP3 because so many people refused to beta test Vista.
Audio software development is topped out currently. You can only design so many algorithms and you soon start going in circles. 64 bit will breath new life into audio software, already has.
Referencing all the hacks in the recording industry, I could not agree more. This over-compressed trash and the Mp3 need to go, but that is the standard these idiots set, so now every engineer does the same thing.
I personally mastered some of your music. I don't use a formula I use intuition. You probably didn't notice when I had your music on my show, but that is part of it. I didn't set out to change it, just make it come alive for the audience.
Music matters to me, but I am in the business of marketing development. I make music too, but spending 12 -14 hours a day marketing and doing radio shows leaves limited time. I have a plan for that, it is being created now. Just today, as a matter of fact.
And I absolutely do not agree that if you are trying sell music that recording techniques are not important. Most indie recordings are junk, that is one of the reasons why competing with major label music is so difficult. There is a standard that people expect if they are going to PAY for music! If you intend to give it away, it doesn't matter that much.
But quality DOES count. |
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