Give away all of your music for free!!!

[the14thdisciple]

[drummergirl]

[yourockradio]

Get spell check, it works. Number two. You are messing with the wrong individual. (Somebody jump in here before it's nasty, please.)


Now join Music Forte and pay your dues, then you can talk crap all you want. Just not about that junk at ITunes. Right this moment you are a F.R.E.E.L.O.A.D.E.R!!!!

Who cares about Dutch radio???? Not even on the map pee-brain. How is that for condescending? Learn how to actually write in English while you are at it.

You are one of those people who have to play off of everyone else's words, you have not one original thought of your own. Maybe your "marketing" takes ?fancy? to you, it is just not worth reading.

Oh, and have a nice day. (I think I'll go vomit.)

[yourockradio]

Wait, wait wait... I promised myself I would be a kinder, gentler, Messiah.

Ok buddy. Shoot. Give us all your advanced wisdom and knowledge regarding marketing. All ears. My bad. Have at it.

Plus that I hate being called a bloke, or whatever that is. Hurts my feelings.

So my friend, you have the floor. Please. Have fun, and enlighten us.

[yourockradio]

[the14thdisciple]

[yourockradio]

What a tard. Shut up you moron.

[1undread]

Emotions and insults are getting in the way of progress.
14, do you have some marketing advise for us?
If not I will have to side with YouRock.

[the14thdisciple]

[1undread]

[the14thdisciple]

[SamDrummerBoy]

WOW! Look what I started........

I think everyone here is really kind of on the same page. Yeah some have paid some haven't...... The reality of it is, IT IS ALL ABOUT PUBLICITY. You try to get people to listen..... Wanting them to buy your CD/download/(radioshow)/whatever.

I just think that some of the artists giving away music, is really hurting the industry. Enough that it has frustrated most of us/(okay...ME) into thinking that my music isn't going to be able to be sold. Everyone else is giving theirs away.

I guess if any of us had the working answer, we wouldn't need to be doing any publicity, have sites on the internet, join this group or that group................

I guess I'm just wondering, if anyone thinks music will ever regain any kind of monetary value???????? AND Does anyone see things differently? (like giving it all away is a good idea?)

Can't we all just be friends?????

Later

Sam

[BelovedLife]

I think its ok if Artists who allow the option of music to be sold at the consumers preference is fine. I understand several factors in them being able to do this are involved in the strength of the brand.

So to me I make lo fi confessional ditties which I don't mind giving away because I just happen to like the idea that someone enjoyed or got something out of my creation. If they complain about the limits of my ability then cest la vie, you get what you pay for.

Over all I like playing shows and feeding off the audience and considering nobody knows me I like to think that directly selling a tangible CD and Record or even an American Apparel t-shirt with a print are worth giving away a few singles or my first album.

Peace

Just do what you feel you need to do to feel validated. Its Art and well in terms of Art who actually gives the value. I mean do you really think the Mona Lisa is priceless because of her smile OR because the Museum which owns it is able to market it in reference to Leonardo DaVinci.

What makes art worth what people pay for it? if anything its a good agent...

Maybe you should check out the documentary about the 6 year old girl who sold several "abstract" art paintings for over 100 000 dollars.
Its called "My Kid Could Paint that".
Was that little girl a genius or did she get marketed with a good story that allowed consumers to feel great about paying what they did for something I think is easy something like Abstract Art.

[yourockradio]

The thing is that the majority of people harbor this secret passion that they would like to make a "living" doing what they love.

All of us want that, whether you are a truck driver or a CEO, you want to love what you do every day and have a "job" that is not a drain on your emotional and physical being to the point of having a heart attack from lack of interest in life.

I am going to give YOU the answer, right here and now.

I have, as many of you know, been involved with a major label artist signed at the age of 56 years old. His name is Dennis Logan, and like a lot of us, he had a dream and never let it go. Now he is living that dream! Reality show on the way, label backing, getting ready to tour, and believe it or not... He has decided to make You Rock Radio a part of his life! He is taking me with him, but that means something very profound... We want you all to come with us!

Dennis and I talk constantly. He wants to create for you the very dream that he is living right now! Half Million dollar studio in his back yard, great pro musicians to work with and all of the things that you know you deserve and on your own terms! This is what we have ALL been wanting! Just a way to see life through to a point of being able to say that we have zero regrets because we did what we knew we should be doing... Living life as God intended! If He did not want us to have wonderful lives, then we would all be in our own living Hell, so never doubt that you deserve a wonderful life!

In the simplest terms, here is what we need to do:

1.) Form a "union", a company as independents. The two great platforms, Music Forte, Inc. and YouRockRadio.com are the meeting hall, the company skyscraper.

2.) Leverage time. If I do advertising/promoting, let's say, and I only have (1) hour to devote to that, but my Union can supply me with 100 members who also have (1) hour, we have created 100 hours of campaign time where I, by myself, had one. Sometimes I may be working on my own campaign, sometimes I will be on yours, but the resulting numbers are astounding!

3.) Establish a specific and focused marketing strategy. I have discussed, with many of you, one that I have. It is not the ONLY one that we can come up with as a company/union, because we are artists we have creative minds. The majority of marketing departments in major corporations do not have the potential mind power that we possess as a movement, and the stakes are not as high. To them it is just a J.O.B., to us, this is our life.

This organization, once established, has more mindpower and creative thought potential than ALL of the record industry companies combined!

Here is another plus:

Everyone, whatever their dream is, will be supported by this union. If you are a hobby musician and just want to be heard and maybe buy a new computer every year, then we support that, if you are just wanting to make a decent living, say 100,000 a year or so, we support you, if you are wanting to eventually get signed with a major touring and worldwide pop star lifestyle, we support that.

The majotr labels don't care about YOUR dream, for them it is the "bottom line" that matters. That is OK, that is how they do business, be we can do the same business differently and achieve the goals that we set out for ourselves.

WE CANNOT DO THIS ALONE! We have tried, and no matter how much we try it still seems to go nowhere, at least not to the place that we can say that we are on the right path, or that we are doing what we love on our own terms.

You can ignore this, I understand, but THIS IS THE ANSWER! There has been no other idea that has been written here at any time that makes more sense.

[SamDrummerBoy]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4442932a4500.html

UPDATE!!!

Hmmmmm....... It may have worked out for them (NIN)?????

I'd like to see sales reports though...... I'd guess, the money was the diehard fans buying $300 boxsets. I could be wrong though.....

Sam